"We have defined holiness through what we separate ourselves from rather than what we give ourselves to. I am convinced the great tragedy is not the sins we commit, but the life we fail to live." - Erwin McManus, Seizing Your Divine Moment
Heh heh heh - from Andrew Jones @ TallSkinnyKiwi. Just click here or the photo to get to his post and questions on this. Also, a follow-up post by Scott Hodge. Good stuff.
Maybe it's just me, but it feels to me that we are making church and worship way more difficult than it needs to be. Quite frankly I don't care whether I'm emergent or not. All I want is to worship my father God, have a relationship with Him, and share that love with others. I don't care if I am worshipping with a 100 person choir, or a single guy on a guitar. Let's stop making it so difficult and just Enjoy Him! Dave
part of that was Andrew's question, too - what about the guy who wants to experience rich image-driven interaction after sharing some wonderful hymns in worship around the organ? labels don't work, but marketing depends on the demographic you're trying to reach - makes it work, but can make it fake, too. not good when it's the gospel we're trying to share and grow in.
That's the big problem, so much of the "experience" is phony. We are modelling church off of a feel good mentality. Not an opportunity to seek God, and to fellowship with other believers. We are making this whole thing much more complicated than it needs to be.
naah - where it's marketing, it's phony. where it's real, it doesn't matter, and these three labels merge together, back and forth, using all of it and none of it to just follow hard after God.
i hear that metamucil helps - eeww, sorry. honest, if i felt part of "a movement" i'd be out the door, too. i'm very cynical, very skeptical, very anti-b.s. - but where it's real, i'm not going to fight that.
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Maybe it's just me, but it feels to me that we are making church and worship way more difficult than it needs to be. Quite frankly I don't care whether I'm emergent or not. All I want is to worship my father God, have a relationship with Him, and share that love with others. I don't care if I am worshipping with a 100 person choir, or a single guy on a guitar. Let's stop making it so difficult and just Enjoy Him!
Dave
part of that was Andrew's question, too - what about the guy who wants to experience rich image-driven interaction after sharing some wonderful hymns in worship around the organ? labels don't work, but marketing depends on the demographic you're trying to reach - makes it work, but can make it fake, too. not good when it's the gospel we're trying to share and grow in.
That's the big problem, so much of the "experience" is phony. We are modelling church off of a feel good mentality. Not an opportunity to seek God, and to fellowship with other believers. We are making this whole thing much more complicated than it needs to be.
naah - where it's marketing, it's phony. where it's real, it doesn't matter, and these three labels merge together, back and forth, using all of it and none of it to just follow hard after God.
I'm wary of movements. I've been part of movements before and they always wind up being let downs.
i hear that metamucil helps - eeww, sorry. honest, if i felt part of "a movement" i'd be out the door, too. i'm very cynical, very skeptical, very anti-b.s. - but where it's real, i'm not going to fight that.
EWWW, dude, you kiss your wife with that mouth? Good searching for that.
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